I place it on the society that failed to recognize the symptoms of her impending self-destruction (or worse, chose to ignore them), the cultural history of seeing suicide as a viable option to ending one's problems, and the lack of support in general for the prevention of suicide and the need to change this ancient mindset. That wouldn't be selfish, it would be malevolent. To those who have lost a loved one to suicide, me included, compassion is needed. The investigation into the woman's death is still ongoing, police told Patch. 'This is a gesture or activity which appears to have shown deliberation and forethought. At those speeds there's going to be a mess. Police are currently trying to identify the deceased. How on earth her family have to pay ? Brooklyn, NY - A 43-year-old woman was killed when she jumped in front of a northbound C train at Nostrand Avenue and Fulton Street in Flatbush at around 10:20 p.m. on March 19. Another example of what happens when emotions are pent up through the pressure of life in Japan. At this low point rational thinking is almost gone, the main thing is to end the life. 7 train at the 40th Street-Lowery Street station in Sunnyside around 4:15 a.m., cops said. 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There is something seriously wrong with a lot of peoples thinking here and i think you need to add a bit of humanity and empathy to your souls. Make it "trendy"??! But what she did was still selfish in the end, and many others are paying for and WILL pay for it. According to police, the woman, Premalatha of Senthil Nagar in Urapakkam, had quarrelled . ), I am even more horrified. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. A mess, yes. UPPER WEST SIDE, NY A woman died after jumping in front of a train at the West 72nd Street and Broadway subway station Thursday night, an NYPD spokeswoman told Patch. would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? We had a discussion about having another child, I told her we had two wonderful children and I did not feel it was necessary to have a third and I thought she agreed,' the heartbroken husband said. cleo - You're right. 'Selfish' is a description, not a judgement. It seems like it is getting worse. Now, I have said and will continue to berate the system here for their lack of help not only for people thinking about suicide but for mental disorders and illness in general, and the fact that there is still a lot of stigma is disgusting. There are times when the person is such a low point that death seems the only option. She was behind on her rent, etcetera. And then, once they are gone, the constant wondering of "Could I have done more?" In a moving tribute, her husband JudeYabani told an inquest: 'I will never regret having her in my life.'. |. She may simply have chosen this route because of her belief that it would both end her suffering and take the burden of supporting her away from society and/or whatever family she had. I don't know the severity of that woman'situation, so I can't say what pushed her over the edge, but I doubt she had any people she could be open with or even had a shoulder to lean on. Following the pregnancy news, the mother-of-two decided she didn't want to deliver her third child at Wexham Park Hospital, instead wanting to transfer to the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading, yearning for a different experience from her first two births, the coroner heard. She is at ease with mum, she is very patient, she follows mum and allows herself to be picked up.'. Northbound 3 trains are running local from Times Square-42nd Street to 96th Street. I saw this on the news this morning, and it was truly horrible. Describing the CCTV footage, DS Rees told the inquest: 'Her behaviour, as a police officer watching, was not normal. British Transport Police had declared the deaths a suspicious incident and an investigation was launched by their Major Crime team. (Just read today's article about women running into problems with loan companies. Leighane Melsadie Redmond, 27, had been taken to court over unpaid bills before jumping onto the tracks at Taplow station in Buckinghamshire on February 18, 2019. Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata on suicide. herefornow - Taking time to put one's affairs in order first and considering how to end it all without harming others are both ways for the suicidal person to put their problems in perspective, see things in a different light and at the very least give themselves a chance to rethink what they're about to do. Several witnesses told police they saw the woman jump from the edge of the platform and get hit by the train around 5:20 p.m., an NYPD spokeswoman said. 3) While they are probably aware they will cause major inconvenience to the company and other passengers, and worse (as is the case here with the people hit by her body), they know they will be seen and found. Mr Hector Bradley . I like Cleo's comment about those contemplating suicide, taking time to get their affairs in order and as a ancillary benefit, truly sitting down to evaluate and think. Imagine being the train driver or his family after his shift; imagine being the poor JR staff who had to look at body parts stewn across the station; imagine being the passengers and emergency workers on the scene. Some subway lines were rerouted. According to investigators, the woman, believed to have been aged in her 40s or 50s, was standing on the third platform at Shin-Koiwa Station at around 10:00 a.m. She then moved to the edge of the platform as the Narita Express airport service approached, on schedule, at 10:04 a.m. and threw herself in front of the train, which was travelling at around 110 kph. Having said that I still agree that public suicide is not and should not be acceptable. Ms Redmond then brought Melsadie back over the gate to the public area of the platform, before returning up the stairs to the bridge over the platforms. 'It was completely out of the blue, it scared me. Another deluded individual. The coroner heard how the religious pair met while they were both living in the Czech Republic, before separately travelling to America and reconnecting. She was seen 'pushing' and 'kicking' against a gate to the platform. the fact is we have to understand that people who kill themselves are in no state to start considering others, they don't even want to live. I'm sure she didn't mean to be knocked back onto the platform when she jumped. Peopel, pleased educate yourselves on mental illness and what makes a person suicidal and how they are thinking. Loan compamies that are often yakuza-backed and will hound someone no end.) This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Its a mistake. According to CCTV footage, she was waiting for the train's arrival and at 3 pm, she jumped in front of a running train. A suicide note has also been recovered by the police. Terrible and selfish. I've been close enough to the edge that I remember feeling nothing but fear, just being scared to hell, and debilitating sadness. If it happened to your loved one would you like them to be called "selfish" and other nasty words? Describing CCTV footage showing the mother and daughter, Assistant Coroner Ian Wade KC said: Sadly, what we can see is that she gathers Melsadie up in her arms and jumps carefully from the platform and is then struck by the train.. 'Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour.'. Based on the collateral damage you think was somehow purposely premeditated? No counseling available in this country? If your going to do it don't risk others. I am not trying to be rude but making statements like "taking it out on others" is ridiculous. I will never regret having her in my life.'. A 28-year-old woman jumped in front of an approaching train at the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Shaw Boulevard station in Mandaluyong City before noon yesterday. Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Zdenka kept her third pregnancy a secret from her husband for five months, the coroner heard. However, they returned just 12 minutes later at 8.17pm. The court heard Ms Redmond had a bill from her electricity supplier of 334 outstanding, a bill from her gas supplier of 638 and she was in rent arrears of 1499.37. In this case I'd bet she didnt want anything more than what she got. To request removal of your name from an arrest report, submit these required items to arrestreports@patch.com. Watch the full video for more.Connect with Hindustan TimesPress the bell icon on YouTube for all the latest updates from Hindustan TimesLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hindustantimesTweet us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/httweetsFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hindustantimes/Find us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hindustantimes/Subscribe to Hindustan Times on Telegram: https://t.me/hindustantimes#Mumbai #Train #Rescue Please show her and her family some respect. Paying tribute to his late wife, Mr Yabani added: 'Zdenka was a lovely woman, I was blessed to have her in my life. The MTA confirmed that somebody was hit at the station and that 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 train service was affected by the ensuing emergency response. The woman jumped in front of a southbound A train at Rockaway Boulevard around 10 a.m., police said. Then again, she may not have been depressed at all. If you want to feel preachy you can even require psychological counseling but give them some out of the way place to do it. "fit into society"?! 'We were aware that pregnancy was a difficult time for her in terms of her mental health. If you think you're experiencing a human rights issue, talk to us in your language. Shortly afterwards, Ms Redmond and Melsadie were seen to enter Taplow stationand the pair remained at the station for around 20 minutes. Bereaving families are not only stuck with a funeral, but a huge bill for the suicide. I bow to those with deep enough compassion. I did not say her actions are good and i do sympathise with others effected by her actions.If anyone critcises are suggest she should have done something else, stop now. . I know they are not in their normal state of mind, but still, if one wants to end his/her life it's better to do it quietly and away from people's eyes. I think most people sadly have had some kind of contact with mental illness and/or suicide by the time they reach "our age". But having witnessed that (note that nothing happened) I felt really sick. smithinjapan; I already stated about the effects her suicide has on others. more than 34000 people kill themself in Japan every year, that is horrible! I'm tired of having traffic backed up when they jump off of a bridge, delays when they go in front of a train, and bystanders being endangered when they want a cop to off them. 'It made me late for work' -type posts - Yes indeed. Stressful start to National Offer Day? I don't care what people say about Trains its a very painfull way especially if you survive. A Great Western Railway employee, Anna Bodja, who witnessed the tragic death, said: 'I heard the fast train approaching, I heard the announcement and I saw the announcement on the board. Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour., The coroner said: At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. A man has been charged after he allegedly jumped onto train tracks near one of Sydney's busiest stations, bringing traffic to a standstill and causing chaos for commuters. As for the deceased person, as we do not know anything about her, it is a little early to judge her motives. This is an archived article and the information in the article may be outdated. We should sop thinking so much about ourselves, ok we are late for work, but a fellow human has died, their shoudl be pity for the deceased and their family not bitterness and anger.Humanity needs a lot of improvement. By The inquest heard how the 39-year-old had previously aborted a child - without her religious husband's knowledge - in 2012 after discovering the baby could be born with an abnormality as a side effect of her bipolar medication. There was no criminality. Join the leaders of English Education for Children in Japan! The unidentified woman was observed leaping in front of a. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. 'Usually when she had an episode, the signs were lack of sleep, lack of appetite and being angry but she was normal before and after the incident,' husband Jude said at the inquest into her death on Thursday. The coroner said Ms Redmond was mainly carrying Melsadie during the time she was at the station, but was also seen walking hand in hand with her at various stages. Furious motorist is fined 650 after council worker paints disabled bay around his parked car. I also very much doubt that she was in any kind of logical state of mind when she did this. Still, I was always somehow conscious of the fact that there are better options. Police said Wednesday that a woman jumped from a platform into the path of an express train in Tokyo's Katsushika Ward on Tuesday morning, killing herself and injuring four bystanders. sadly it does. I'm sure they're terribly rattled, though. She died at the scene. MoriNoHogosha; very brave of you to come here and post how you feel.Suicide is seen by many as a dirty and nasty thing. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. ". Steve@CPFC - 100% agree with all of your posts on this thread. "I have been late 3 times this month because someone thought to throw themselves in front of a train.". Don't you think that's part of the problem here guys? 'After the birth of our second child, she relapsed and was admitted to hospital again. Mr Wade said: 'The next thing she appears to do, she does when no member of the public is in her immediate vicinity. Wrong signal. All trains should be like Namboku line - no stress there. The inquest was told that between 2005 and 2015 while living in the UK, Zdenka had eight admissions to hospital, with half relating to being pregnant or having been pregnant. Just another day in Japan. ( ) A. for B. in C. during D. since. What is wrong wih you people, did you grow up in the 19th century? (Thanks to Ben Orlove for the tip.) The eight-months pregnant woman bought herself a ticket before running across the platform and jumping in front of a non-stop intercity train which sped through the station at 115mph - instantly . why do people consistently suicide by jumping in front of a train? There is SOME counselling, but it's still woefully inadequate and carries a certain stigma with it. Detective Sergeant Simon Rees told the inquest that a financial investigator had examined Ms Redmonds circumstances prior to her death. Because it's far more likely she ended her life for the simpler reason most people end their life - clinical depression. Down right scary !!!!! DS Rees said: 'Leighane Redmond had several debts in several forms. If you have lived throug or witnessed a love one living through the hell of severe mental illness you would know why i say these things. Here is a bit of advice to those who seem to think this woman was selfish or a bad person. When the person awakes and lives witha feeling of nothingness and utter despair do you think they can have consideration for otehrs even you with your busy schedule. Mr Wade asked the officer: 'I think your financial investigator looked at whether she had made a voluntary arrangement in terms of indebtedness through court proceedings. papigiulio: "why do people consistently suicide by jumping in front of a train? She then returned to the non-public access platform at 9.29pm and once again lifted Melsadie over the gate, but this time also climbed over the gate herself. In a startling incident at the Dadar station Maharashtra's Mumbai, a woman jumped before a train. An unidentified woman was injured when she jumped in front of a southbound No. 6 IRT train at the station at 68th Street and Lexington Avenue at 12:01 P.M. yesterday, transit authorities said. Published on : 24 Feb, 2023, 12:39 pm. Ms Redmond eventually came to a platform which was cordoned off to the public. So, after that experience I'm not so keen on excusing those people. But seriously here, counselling is available for those that look for it. 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