You need to Register or Login to view the content. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. pg.acq.push(function() { Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. (Also just a little side note, I know people arent aware and I havent specified it on this blog, but please dont refer to me with she/her pronouns! Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ i am so so tired. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. ga('ads.send', { However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. Posts: 310. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple Our hearts on fire . However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. Call me out for what? Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. Threads: 200. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. Why was that her fault? actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? i love exo. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? } In this video, they wore blackface. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" eventAction: 'render' okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. ; _____; aaaa. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. omg?? The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. hitType: 'event', The sun will always shine for us. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. Goodbye! Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. Advanced Faker. hitType: 'event', window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Please think before you write these messages. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. Whew, Im sorry for the long post haha. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. Mamamoo - Solar. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. Refresh the page,. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). The word Hwasa has become a synonym for trash in the eyes of many K-pop fans, which in turn leads to them believing it is acceptable to beat her down as a defection of their own kpop favs. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . JavaScript is disabled. They make a difference. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. TWICE - jihyo: wore a native american costume + introduced herself as ''indian jihyo . 1. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. It also means I respond to criticism poorly. Probation Faker. 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Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . Threads: 138. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. }); To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. Posts: 337. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . 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